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    imperialismus
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    V is for Vaporware Can't believe this guy is pulling in $800/month on Patreon for this.

    V is for Vaporware

    Can't believe this guy is pulling in $800/month on Patreon for this.

    29 votes
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      This is the real danger of a vaporware project like this. Instead of donating to the many good free/open source projects out there that actually need support...these people are donating (and...

      This is the real danger of a vaporware project like this. Instead of donating to the many good free/open source projects out there that actually need support...these people are donating (and starring/bookmarking on GitHub) a project that hasn't proven its worth.

      I use magit, an Emacs git mode, every single day at work and it receives $10/month in donations. And there are far more users of it than V, ~4000 stars on GitHub (if that's an indicator of anything). I just can't believe this vaporware project is draining attention and money and time from other projects.

      13 votes
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          That's a good point; it's difficult to see the overall $/month raised when it's spread across various sites. I think OpenCollective is a good idea for that reason, a bit more transparency about...

          That's actually very interesting because the Patreon link on Magit's homepage is to a page for Jonas Bernoulli, who receives $400+ a month.
          ...
          Are they the same thing? What's the difference between the Liberapay page and the Patreon page? Lots of questions.

          That's a good point; it's difficult to see the overall $/month raised when it's spread across various sites. I think OpenCollective is a good idea for that reason, a bit more transparency about the money coming in and then being spent for free/open source projects.

          5 votes
        2. unknown user
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          That is how Patreon is supposed to work tho: it is about supporting the creators, not their individual projects (or at least that's what I gathered when I was researching about it when I was...

          That is how Patreon is supposed to work tho: it is about supporting the creators, not their individual projects (or at least that's what I gathered when I was researching about it when I was considering starting a creative project funded using it). IDK how active Bernoulli is within Magit, but he's quite active within the Emacs community (helps a lot with Melpa for example) and I do think he deserves the support.

          3 votes
    2. unknown user
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      This is the funniest shit I've read all week. Thank you!
      V has a http module. It leaves a lot to be desired. My favorite part is the implementation of download_file on macOS:
      fn download_file(url, out string) {
      	// println('\nDOWNLOAD FILE $out url=$url')
      	// -L follow redirects
      	// println('curl -L -o "$out" "$url"')
      	os.system2('curl -s -L -o "$out" "$url"')
      	// res := os.system('curl -s -L -o "$out" "$url"')
      	// println(res)
      }
      

      This has no error checking (the function os.system2 returns the exit code of curl) and it shells out to curl instead of using libcurl. (…)

      This is the funniest shit I've read all week. Thank you!

      7 votes
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      1. mftrhu
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        Yes, and it's done via pure CSS, and it's beautiful. :') You could easily do something like that for, say, org-mode or -man macros, you just have to throw enough :before and :after at it.

        Yes, and it's done via pure CSS, and it's beautiful. :')

        You could easily do something like that for, say, org-mode or -man macros, you just have to throw enough :before and :after at it.

        8 votes
    4. [2]
      mrbig
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      Silly question: is there a programming language for every letter of the alphabet?

      Silly question: is there a programming language for every letter of the alphabet?

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      1. mftrhu
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        Yes. Off the top of my head - APL, B (precursor to C), C/C++, D, E, F#, J (an ASCII-only APL), K (similar to J and APL), Q (built by the same person as K), R. And, mind you, there's more...
        • Exemplary

        Yes.

        Off the top of my head - APL, B (precursor to C), C/C++, D, E, F#, J (an ASCII-only APL), K (similar to J and APL), Q (built by the same person as K), R.

        And, mind you, there's more programming languages than what Wikipedia lists. The Online Historical Encyclopedia of Programming Languages (HOPL) lists over 9000, but more are being written every day, and there's enough programming languages whose name is a word that you could probably write a short story with them by now (go, forth, rust, elixir, dart, squirrel, terra, pony, chicken, icon, lisp, scheme, guile, gambit, larceny...)

        Edit: also see One Letter Programming Languages, from this Lobsters thread.

        9 votes
    5. [2]
      mozz
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      Startup founders regularly overpromise about unfinished features, and no one bats an eye when they pull in millions of VC funding money. What do you think it is about this guy's Patreon that has...

      Startup founders regularly overpromise about unfinished features, and no one bats an eye when they pull in millions of VC funding money. What do you think it is about this guy's Patreon that has people feeling so indignant?

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      1. imperialismus
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        Startup culture is completely whack, and I can't speak to the larger cultural trends that have normalized this sort of bullshit. But this is a developer-centric project, targeting developers. VCs...

        Startup culture is completely whack, and I can't speak to the larger cultural trends that have normalized this sort of bullshit. But this is a developer-centric project, targeting developers. VCs are not expected to be as tech-savvy as the people who actually build the products they're investing in. I personally don't understand how this guy managed to lure in so many people who should really know better.

        10 votes
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      I wonder if V's developer shouldn't just sell his skills as a marketer to other FOSS projects that are sorely in need of donations.

      I wonder if V's developer shouldn't just sell his skills as a marketer to other FOSS projects that are sorely in need of donations.

      5 votes
  3. Soptik
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    I tried to use V, but following official install from source instructions (which btw included step “compile at ~/code/ otherwise it won’t work”) resulted in segfault while building. I found some...

    I tried to use V, but following official install from source instructions (which btw included step “compile at ~/code/ otherwise it won’t work”) resulted in segfault while building. I found some old github issue and made a workaround to make it work. Then I copy-pasted one of the example programs on the website which didn’t compile because of syntax error.

    I don’t think I’ll use this language anytime soon.

    9 votes
  4. [3]
    Litmus2336
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    Memory Leak in Hello World. Oof

    Memory Leak in Hello World. Oof

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      Last time I had one of those was when I was trying ASM and...it wasn't just a memory leak, full on seg-faulting :-D

      Last time I had one of those was when I was trying ASM and...it wasn't just a memory leak, full on seg-faulting :-D

      3 votes
      1. Litmus2336
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        Hey I mean the seg fault frees the memory :P

        Hey I mean the seg fault frees the memory :P

        2 votes