As a Russian programmer, I can clearly say, that if they really go with the “Patriotic Internet” model, there will be a lot of emigration. Probably including Yours Truly.
As a Russian programmer, I can clearly say, that if they really go with the “Patriotic Internet” model, there will be a lot of emigration. Probably including Yours Truly.
If you're not fussed about where you want to move to, and just want to get out of your current country, you'd be surprised how easy it is. I've moved dozens of times (literally), to various...
If you're not fussed about where you want to move to, and just want to get out of your current country, you'd be surprised how easy it is. I've moved dozens of times (literally), to various countries, and never really had an issue.
The world is a big place, and if you ignore the media who thrive off manufactured fear, it's mostly very safe and full of friendly welcoming people just living their lives.
The problem is most people want to go to specific countries that are high-demand, such as the US or Germany. Those countries can be picky because of the sheer number of people wanting to move there.
I didn't know either so had to look it up: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_auditor Lots of [citation needed] in the article, but apparently a night auditor is basically a hotel receptionist...
Lots of [citation needed] in the article, but apparently a night auditor is basically a hotel receptionist but with some accounting duties involved as well since they work at night, after the fiscal day closes. Interesting. I never even considered that busy 24hr businesses like hotels would have to deal with fiscal day closes differently than everyone else, but it makes sense.
Much of Eastern Europe speaks languages that are intelligible to Russians or are close enough that Russian speakers can pick it up well enough to get along (similar to how...
Much of Eastern Europe speaks languages that are intelligible to Russians or are close enough that Russian speakers can pick it up well enough to get along (similar to how Spanish-Portuguese-Italian speakers can kind of get by). Also a lot of Central Asia has enough Russian speakers and Russian expats to make it possible to live there. And there’s plenty of Russophone communities in the UK and the USA.
It’s definitely harder if you’re a speaker of something relatively obscure, like a native African language. But Russia used to a global superpower.
Depends on how much wealth I will have at the time of hypothetical leaving. Basically: switch amountOfMoney { case aLot: return Switzerland || Canada case enough: return EU default: return Belarus...
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Depends on how much wealth I will have at the time of hypothetical leaving. Basically:
The idea behind "may" is that most people in Russia are encouraged to use Russian services by default. Yandex (the Google of Russia), VK (the Facebook of younger, hipper Russia) and Odnoklassniki...
The idea behind "may" is that most people in Russia are encouraged to use Russian services by default. Yandex (the Google of Russia), VK (the Facebook of younger, hipper Russia) and Odnoklassniki (the orange Facebook of older, Soviet-esque Russia), Glonass (the GPS of Russia) etc.
The fact that the Russian segment of the Internet has its own name – the Runet – should hint at just how secluded it is to begin with.
Well, this is not a full disconnection. They only plan to move internal traffic through internal channels. But that is just the first moves. Sad, it all goes going to the Chinese internet model.
Well, this is not a full disconnection. They only plan to move internal traffic through internal channels. But that is just the first moves.
Sad, it all goes going to the Chinese internet model.
This is the part that freaks me out. To me, this type of preparation indicates that they are expecting retaliation. We already know that they have been engaging in cyber-warfare attacks against...
A first draft of the law mandated that Russian internet providers should ensure the independence of the Russian internet space (Runet) in the case of foreign aggression to disconnect the country from the rest of the internet.
This is the part that freaks me out. To me, this type of preparation indicates that they are expecting retaliation. We already know that they have been engaging in cyber-warfare attacks against the US (and other countries?), but are they planning something even bigger besides "meddling"? Might they try to bring the internet to a halt somehow (DNS server attacks, for example)?
DNS is one route, but in the case of some kind of direct attempt to deny or disrupt access, I'd more expect a BGP hijack/leak attempt like we've seen from various actors already. The internet...
DNS server attacks
DNS is one route, but in the case of some kind of direct attempt to deny or disrupt access, I'd more expect a BGP hijack/leak attempt like we've seen from various actors already.
The internet infrastructure was largely built with lots of assumptions about every participant acting in good faith, which is decidedly no longer the case.
As a Norwegian high-school second-year student, I am quite ignorant about effects of such a disconnection, but I am extremely intrigued to see how that'd play out... I mean, the internet really is...
As a Norwegian high-school second-year student, I am quite ignorant about effects of such a disconnection, but I am extremely intrigued to see how that'd play out... I mean, the internet really is everywhere now, and to see such a huge portion of it removed ─ temporarily or not, ─ how would this affect, everywhere? (as everywhere's where the internet is)
For Russia's part, it won't suffer much. Russia has a diverse Internet infrastructure, and most of what's targeted here is "the evil West" anyway. I don't think the rest of the world will suffer....
For Russia's part, it won't suffer much. Russia has a diverse Internet infrastructure, and most of what's targeted here is "the evil West" anyway.
I don't think the rest of the world will suffer. There is a number of Russia-based programmers, designers, artists etc. to whom using the Internet – as in, the "big" Internet – is a matter of either profit, or user/fan engagement. They would be hit. A good number of Russians also access international resources – Reddit, Western newspapers, Github, Patreon, PayPal etc.. They, too, would be hit.
But not the majority of people. I think most Russians will adapt and start using Russian-based analogous services.
As a Russian programmer, I can clearly say, that if they really go with the “Patriotic Internet” model, there will be a lot of emigration. Probably including Yours Truly.
Do non programmers (or similar global and digital professionals) have sufficient foreign languages and useful professional skills for that though?
If you're not fussed about where you want to move to, and just want to get out of your current country, you'd be surprised how easy it is. I've moved dozens of times (literally), to various countries, and never really had an issue.
The world is a big place, and if you ignore the media who thrive off manufactured fear, it's mostly very safe and full of friendly welcoming people just living their lives.
The problem is most people want to go to specific countries that are high-demand, such as the US or Germany. Those countries can be picky because of the sheer number of people wanting to move there.
What is a night auditor?
I didn't know either so had to look it up:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_auditor
Lots of [citation needed] in the article, but apparently a night auditor is basically a hotel receptionist but with some accounting duties involved as well since they work at night, after the fiscal day closes. Interesting. I never even considered that busy 24hr businesses like hotels would have to deal with fiscal day closes differently than everyone else, but it makes sense.
Ha, makes sense! Thanks for checking it out.
Much of Eastern Europe speaks languages that are intelligible to Russians or are close enough that Russian speakers can pick it up well enough to get along (similar to how Spanish-Portuguese-Italian speakers can kind of get by). Also a lot of Central Asia has enough Russian speakers and Russian expats to make it possible to live there. And there’s plenty of Russophone communities in the UK and the USA.
It’s definitely harder if you’re a speaker of something relatively obscure, like a native African language. But Russia used to a global superpower.
Depends on how much wealth I will have at the time of hypothetical leaving. Basically:
Edit 2019-07-18: Well Kazakhstan is off the table now and Belarus will probably follow suit. Moldova it is then. Bring in the must!
I do like the Baltic states, but the whole alien debacle has left a bad taste in my mouth.
Switzerland is the dream.
No less than ten years, according to my calculations. That is, if I have a job opportunity ready.
In that case, as a Russian to a Russian: best of luck.
Is it mentioned anywhere on how long this would last?
Also,
Shutting down "may" cause major disruptions? No shit?
The idea behind "may" is that most people in Russia are encouraged to use Russian services by default. Yandex (the Google of Russia), VK (the Facebook of younger, hipper Russia) and Odnoklassniki (the orange Facebook of older, Soviet-esque Russia), Glonass (the GPS of Russia) etc.
The fact that the Russian segment of the Internet has its own name – the Runet – should hint at just how secluded it is to begin with.
Well, this is not a full disconnection. They only plan to move internal traffic through internal channels. But that is just the first moves.
Sad, it all goes going to the Chinese internet model.
This is the part that freaks me out. To me, this type of preparation indicates that they are expecting retaliation. We already know that they have been engaging in cyber-warfare attacks against the US (and other countries?), but are they planning something even bigger besides "meddling"? Might they try to bring the internet to a halt somehow (DNS server attacks, for example)?
DNS is one route, but in the case of some kind of direct attempt to deny or disrupt access, I'd more expect a BGP hijack/leak attempt like we've seen from various actors already.
The internet infrastructure was largely built with lots of assumptions about every participant acting in good faith, which is decidedly no longer the case.
As a Norwegian high-school second-year student, I am quite ignorant about effects of such a disconnection, but I am extremely intrigued to see how that'd play out... I mean, the internet really is everywhere now, and to see such a huge portion of it removed ─ temporarily or not, ─ how would this affect, everywhere? (as everywhere's where the internet is)
For Russia's part, it won't suffer much. Russia has a diverse Internet infrastructure, and most of what's targeted here is "the evil West" anyway.
I don't think the rest of the world will suffer. There is a number of Russia-based programmers, designers, artists etc. to whom using the Internet – as in, the "big" Internet – is a matter of either profit, or user/fan engagement. They would be hit. A good number of Russians also access international resources – Reddit, Western newspapers, Github, Patreon, PayPal etc.. They, too, would be hit.
But not the majority of people. I think most Russians will adapt and start using Russian-based analogous services.
We'll make our own internet, with vodka and babushka's.